I'm a little confused, Zardnaar. In the sub-optimal class thread, you have mentioned that you get upset if someone is bringing a suboptimal character to your table. Yet here, you are saying that these two feats are over-powered and broken and need to be changed. So, it appears as if you are saying that you don't like optimized characters unless they are not-too-optimized and then they are a drag on the game.What is the absolute tightrope you expect your players to walk? Where do you draw the line between sub-optimal and optimal? Have you clearly and succinctly laid out what the sweet spot with your player''s characters actually is? Unfortunately, it may be necessary to do a little DM soul-searching rather than blaming your players and the rules.
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